tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5755659872909540278.post799350040686950416..comments2023-09-25T06:55:40.348-07:00Comments on KarShaf: رسالة إلى العقلاء: يا عزيزى كلنا ضحاياKarShafhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08503772091574521255noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5755659872909540278.post-20241324844801577502011-10-16T19:55:22.829-07:002011-10-16T19:55:22.829-07:00I think its a very well thought out and very well ...I think its a very well thought out and very well written analysis. I agree with you completely that the corrupt regime which also contained Coptic elements bore no allegiance to any religion in any meaningful sense. Sure the majority in the corrupt regime were Muslims but religiosity of any measure was never seen as an asset amongst them.<br /><br />The idea that Copts suffered more in my opinion is the wrong way to go about this. If we follow that logic Islamists would have probably suffered the most under Mubarak's rule. Therefore, I don't think that discussion would be useful. Discrimination against Copts is self evident and has been legalized. That the previous regime fostered hatred between the two factions is also self evident. <br /><br />What I like about your piece is that it's forward looking and actually quite optimistic. Actually, from the number of Muslims I talked to Sunday's massacre was a wake up call. Instead of blaming the victim, most weren't looking for responsibility but were like you focused on their fear of what's to come.<br /><br />You write very well Karim. Thanks for sharing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5755659872909540278.post-65121520420989759572011-10-16T09:58:42.523-07:002011-10-16T09:58:42.523-07:00أختلف مع الطرح الأساسي و هو إن المسيحيين (أو النصا...أختلف مع الطرح الأساسي و هو إن المسيحيين (أو النصارى بما إن دي الموضة) و المسلمين مظلومين و ضحية نظام فاسد و شيطاني أدى بهم لكراهية بعضهم البعض. المسلمين لا يتعرضوا لإضطهاد بسبب أنهم "الأخر" و طرح الموضوع كأن الطرفين ضحية يتجاهل السياق الأساسي . ما حدث للمسيحيين منذ السبعينات للأن هو رد فعل في المقام الأول. رد فعل خاطئ أدى بهم لخلق مجتمع موازي و منعزل. لكنه رد فعل. <br />المسئولية الأعظم تقع على عاتق الأغلبية المسلمة و رجال الدين المسلمين و الفكر الوهابي .Mardinixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10682948838173174447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5755659872909540278.post-70247241883649343602011-10-16T06:43:28.569-07:002011-10-16T06:43:28.569-07:00If you are willing to see that Christians and Musl...If you are willing to see that Christians and Muslims suffered EQUALLY under and from the regime then you are willfully ignoring reality. I used to say the same stuff you do above - but it is increasingly apparent that "el nizam" is actually largely made up of biased Muslims. I could use many examples if you like. tab3an the solution to everyone's problems is enforcing rule of law, equality etc. but not only is there way too much hatred for this to happen, it requires that people recognize that the state is just as religiously prejudiced as other members of society. Moreoever i do not think you have touched on the way that Egyptians are most fucked up in this regard in my opinion: EVERYONE wants to be governed by his or her religious laws. yes, that's how stupid they are. they want two separate personal status schemes and all that and for conversion to be virtually prohibited into the other faith and so on. in light of such a failure to recognize the importance of secular laws mish 3arfa momken ne3mel eh.Forsoothsayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02765993032234113659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5755659872909540278.post-85217415585496091752011-10-16T05:14:54.394-07:002011-10-16T05:14:54.394-07:00One of the best insights I read about the sectaria...One of the best insights I read about the sectarian tension in Egypt. Bravo!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906478912765212031noreply@blogger.com